What Characters are playable?

[JChadbourne]

Just interested in seeing what people are using for characters out there. I can assume Sutraps, LPR, and maybe Zycon. Anyone using anythign else, anyone being creative?

[redshirt]

I am not all that good with creating decks. But Thandore seems to be highly playable, as he has pretty respectable stats, plus many of the best creatures in the game are rogues and he would give them all invisibility.

There is no maybe about Zycon being playable. He has been one of the best characters in the Windy Burn version and other configurations.

I would guess some people still play Grimus and Glye in addition to the ones you've mentioned.

[JChadbourne]

Are any of the new characters playable? Has anyone taken the time to tinker around with them or are that happy with the old characters? I have started to tinker around with a deck but I am not sure how it will do in tourneys. Generaly it has time for 1 game and maybe half of the second.

Red:
You made mention of a windy burn deck? Do you have a list for that? Or is that just what you have heard about. I find with wizard/spell decks you seam to either get wizards and no spells or spells with out the correct wizards 80% of the time. The other 20% you seam to draw a desent hand.

Thandore:
yeah he's alright but if you are goong to make a deck with all creatures that come into play disengaged then you want to play LPR, since she already draws 2 cards, add ring or tempo and Bibli you have 3 cards a turna dn 3 actions. Card advantage is always a good, whether it be playing or drawing, this way you get them both.

Grimus:
I was a huge fan of him but since he only has 10 life it is harder to keep him alive long enough to make a difference. 10 life is already about half the life of anyone else. Sure he can play anythign but if you stall then you loose or if a heat wave hits play you have 5 life, no good!!!

Glye:
I have a worrier deck with Glye and I have found that sutraps is better if you are looking for a beats decks. Yes you can play wings in glye but that takes away from the playing a creature and attacking each turn. But a flying 6 damage is somethign to fear.

[redshirt]

JChadbourne:

This is the original Windy Burn deck, as played by [Q] to a win in last year's Midwest Regionals. I don't know if there's been much in the way of evolving the basic cards. Playing with it or against it, I've never really seen the deck have too much of a problem drawing wizards or spells in roughly the right amount.

The weakness of the deck is if you can take out the first couple of wizards it can be stuck unable to cast things.

That deck got overshadowed by LPR based decks, but seems poised to make a comeback now that LPR has been errataed. The main trouble it would seem to face is Sutraps, but it might have to put Peace Time maindeck to make that a favorable matchup.

4x Wizard Apprentice
3x Pyromancer
3x Knyles
3x Vorex
3x Draken
2x Illusionist
2x Wizard Recruiter
2x Morlock Debaine
2x Corpse Collector
4x Chain Lightning
4x Fireball
4x Lightning Bolt
4x Purify
4x Thoughtful Study
4x Tranqul Touch
3x Heat Wave
2x Bibliotheque
1x Trade Agreement

As for your comment on Thandore vs. LPR, LPR has been changed so that she draws two cards a turn but must discard one of them. That change, plus the invisibility aspect, would make it so there'd be a separate Thandore Rogue deck. Before the change, the only reason to play a non-LPR deck would be if you wanted to attack with your character as a main road to victory.

Right now, I would guess that Sutraps is better than most decks out there, including Glye. But in some matchups, hypothetically it would be better to have the two actions a turn and false loyalty for all your warriors than it would be to have Sutraps' abilities, as formidable as they are.

[JChadbourne]

where is the LPR erratta? I have not seen that yet. The only thing that I saw was that she only started with 4 cards not 5 then discarding to 4 at end of turn.

[redshirt]

Keith hasn't posted the errata officially yet. However, he has essentially confirmed it in the judge's forums after another poster said he saw a foil version of LPR with the new wording.

[JChadbourne]

Thats too bad another good card just got trashed. To bad to have so many changes to so many cards with a game young in development.

Sure it makes people want to play her. Why not, if you want other people to play different characters then make them just as good.

Through out the junk characters and start making good ones that poeple want to play. No more 4 loyalty stuff or the new demon character, great deamons dont even get false loyalty. So i have to use a dft counter just to make sure i can attack. Maybe I can kill somethign this turn to get another?? But thats not for sure.

sorry to go on a rant but sooner or later it seams with limited characters and the not very many playable ones the game will come down to 3 decks. That will lead to simular builds and thus leaving the game with maybe 150 cards that will be playable, I know some decks will have some of the same crads in them.

Its too bad to have 400 cards out and only have 150 of them see play.

Back on track about characters. Is there anyone out there that has built a competive deck with out LPR, Sutrap, Glye or Zycon? I would say Thandore but I just dont see an all rouge deck that great. Maybe I am wrong.

I put the challenge forth for people to make new decks with new characters, any takers?? At the end I will ask peopel to vote on the best deck posted. Take the top 3 decks and build them and then I will choose what one I like the best and I will send out a random UR or a Promo if I have recieved them, to that person. Dont know what UR or promo, but one that I have kicking around at that time. Its not much but at least its something. Lets get people off the easy tracks and get them thinking.

[Deleted]

As the rules are now, I think Thandore would possibly own face, but this is largely due to manipulating the Invisible/Invisibility mechanic. I don't want to go into too much detail because I hope to have this changed soon, but if not then I'll be the first to post a deck and show you what I mean.

Building a competitive deck without the Fab 4 you mentioned is difficult, however, if I were to try, I'd go with Dagen the architect. I might find a way to develop defense early and build a control deck, especially with cheap walls like Barricade and game breakers like City Wall. I'll endeavor into this and let you know on my progress.

In the past I had also seen a pretty decent Belphegor Curse deck, but this was largely due to the popularity of LPR and as of now don't think it could possibly stand up to Sutraps.

[JChadbourne]

I am interested in hearing your thoughts of the thandore deck. I am not sure what you are making mention of but will find out in the duture I guess.

As for Dagen, I have tryed and found that he is not all that great. He is good for builing structures but thats about it. His Leadership is too low to bank on having any good creatures to play with possably having them abandon.

Belphegor is ok, I have looked at him as well but unless you you build a mill deck he is not all that good. Curses would be good as well as long as you were playing against LPR, if not then it is not all that great.

As for sutraps being one of the top tier decks right now, thats correct. He is good and witha ring then there realy is no draw back. You get a free action to play a creature anywanys. Then you also have his underling that gets you what you need then sutraps plays him. Some UR's seam to have been made for him as well.

I have personaly found a new character that I like. I dont have a finished deck list at point, I have only played it maybe 4 times. Once I get more familar with the deck and see what needs to be changed I will post it.

[noobpwner]

LPR is the only deck tech all the way it pwns so hard it will hurt your face.

[JChadbourne]

make sure that you abuse her to her fullest now for things could be changing. I have heard rumor that she is changing soona dn the new ability is not all that great in my opinion.

Hopefully you have made different decks with different characters....

just my 2 cents

[noobpwner]

Why I make the deck that pwns anything else is noob