Brawl

[Keith Katsikas]

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Brawl
Spell
Ritual

If there are two or more Creatures in Target Building, Brawl deals two Damage to each of those Creatures, and two Damage to the Building for each Creature inside it.
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Ihsan Alnasrawi
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If this spell deals damage to a creature inside the building, and the creature survives, does the creature heal during Natural Healing, or is the creature being out of play prevent it from healing?

[spiller]

Very good question! I would guess that they would heal. Creatures out of play must still go through the same game phases as a creature in play. If not, when you used an action to move a creature into a building, it would never disengage and hence never be able to move out of it.

[Keith Katsikas]

Yes, it will heal.

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Spiller shot with a very good analysis. The Sithmaster alley-ooped it. Nice teamwork!

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*Just a side note. I've inferred from the rules now myself why this works. The creatures are considered Out of Play (which is capitalized in the rulebook by the way as if to imply that it is a key glossary term) but still under your control. That is why they heal, disengage, but not remove Time Tokens.

However, I also noticed that in the same rulebook, the term "In Play" is defined. Under that circumstance it only makes sense that "Out of Play" be defined as well.

Out of Play= Creatures Out of Play are considered to be under your Control and immune to all form of Attack, Abilities, Spells and Effects.

That would be more efficient I think, and would shorten the definition of Building by simply saying that Creatures inside them are considered Out of Play. It says that now but it doesn't really mean anything unless said phrase is described.

Phew.

[Keith Katsikas]

"Out of Play= Creatures Out of Play are considered to be under your Control and immune to all form of Attack, Abilities, Spells and Effects."

I can agree with that.

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Awesome. Next case...

[cadrac]

admin said:

"Out of Play= Creatures Out of Play are considered to be under your Control and immune to all form of Attack, Abilities, Spells and Effects."

I can agree with that.

I think the definition needs a little more text. Otherwise, as written, they are immune to all of the above, but can still use their own actions to affect creatures that are in play, cast spells and effects, theoretically even attack, all while being immune. (Unless that is exactly what is intended.)

Perhaps Out of Play = Creatures Out of Play are considered to be under your Control and immune to all form of Attack, Abilities, Spells and Effects generated by cards which are In Play. While Out of Play they cannot Attack, Defend, or Block, cannot help cast Spells or Effects with other casters who are In Play or in a different Structure than the one they are in, and any Abilities they use, or Spells or Effects they participate in casting can only affect Creatures, Characters, and Items inside the same Structure they are in and/or the Structure itself.

Eliminate from the above definition any actions they ARE supposed to be able to do. OR if they aren't supposed to be able to do a darn thing the definition could be as follows:

Out of Play = Creatures Out of Play are considered to be under your Control and immune to all form of Attack, Abilities, Spells and Effects generated by cards which are In Play. While Out of Play they cannot Attack or Block, and the only Action they may take is leaving a Structure they are in.

[Keith Katsikas]

Boy, cadrac, you have some great ideas here. It's almost painful how much they sound like what we are actually putting into place. Are you psychic?

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Not to shot block or anything but those things were already taken care of in the defintion of Building where it describes the functions of creatures that are in Buildings. The only concern I had back then was that this defintion I refer to didn't deal with the phrase "Out of Play", so that was the reason for this proposed rewrite. But I'm sure by now it has been all taken care of...