Lord Sardaine

[Keith Katsikas]

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Lord Sardaine
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Time Mage
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Draw a card during your Time Phase.
If you choose to keep that card, skip your Draw Phase; otherwise, Discard that card and Draw during your Draw Phase as normal.
Wizards under your control with more than one Time Token on them cannot be Damaged and Lord Sardaine gains: May use an Action to add or remove one Time Token from any Living Target so long as you Maintain a Woodland Sanctuary.
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Don Maitz
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[cadrac]

If Lord Sardaine removed the last Time token on a Wandering Creature, would it immediately wander off to a new controller as soon as his removal of the token resolved, start a new event that would cause the creature to wander when the event resolved, or not wander until its controller's next Time phase?

[Keith Katsikas]

It would wander immediately.

[cadrac]

What happens if a Creature Wanders in the middle of an Event or Non-Attack Event? Does that mean it is removed from the Event?

Examples:

The current Controller of a Wandering Cleric announces the intention to have it use its Action to retrieve a certain Creature from his Cemetary. Lord Sardaine removes the last Time Token from the Cleric as a Response and the Cleric Wanders to a new Controller. This aborts his declared Action, correct? And because he never got a chance to take that Action, the new Controller gets him in a Disengaged state, right?

I'm playing Lord Sardaine and you declare the intention to have your Wandering Unicorn attack me. I use Lord Sardaine to remove the Unicorn's last Time Token and it Wanders to a new Controller. This stops the Attack, correct?

[Keith Katsikas]

I am going to rule that forcing the cleric to wander will pull it from the event. Lord Sardaine's ability will resolve before the cleric's ability.

[Deleted]

Yes, I agree as well here that in both cases the reanimation and the attack would fail here. But I do have an underlying issue here, and maybe you can help me Keith. It has to do with resolving Events which we having been working on lately.

As per the above examples, Sardaine is faster and pulls the creatures out. In what state does the new controller get the wandering creatures?

This has to do with Event ordinance. Does the Creature that adds an Action to start an event effectively "pay" for that event with its action and engage immediately at the start of the event before responses are announced? Thus, if they are stolen and pulled from the event and their effects cancelled they would still be engaged.

Or

Do the Creatures declare the action, and if stolen in a faster response, get pulled from the event disengaged?

[Keith Katsikas]

queue said:

Yes, I agree as well here that in both cases the reanimation and the attack would fail here. But I do have an underlying issue here, and maybe you can help me Keith. It has to do with resolving Events which we having been working on lately.

As per the above examples, Sardaine is faster and pulls the creatures out. In what state does the new controller get the wandering creatures?

Fully Engaged, because Abeyance is a one way street. Once you declare you're doing something you cannot go back.

queue said:

This has to do with Event ordinance. Does the Creature that adds an Action to start an event effectively "pay" for that event with its action and engage immediately at the start of the event before responses are announced? Thus, if they are stolen and pulled from the event and their effects cancelled they would still be engaged.

It sounds to me like you have yet to read the new rulings in the revised comp rules.

[Deleted]

Caught me red-handed! I've had a Keith couple of days (very busy, lol) and haven't been able to catch up yet. Will do so immediately. Thanks boss!

[cadrac]

admin said:

It sounds to me like you have yet to read the new rulings in the revised comp rules.

Does this mean that the revised rules that were due out by the 8th are out early or just that Q, in his position as Admin, has access to an advanced copy he could have already read?

[Deleted]

No, I think he means he's updated the regular public rulebook. I don't get access to any of that stuff that you don't. As Mod, I get a roll of Bounty to clean up any messes left by you (the members)! LOL.

[Keith Katsikas]

"Q"... Behave! You do have special privlages as a judge. You and the other judges have access to the revised rules right now in chambers. No one else does. Help me finish this so we can post them publicly. Thanks =)