My View on Some Decks Given to Me

[2MuchSkill]

Hey, someone on the forum gave me 2 deck lists that I asked for, a Grimus control, and a Zycon Wizard swarm thing. After close analysis of the decks, and taking some of my Yu-Gi-Oh! philosophy to deckbuilding I've come to the conclusion that this Zycon deck is'nt that decent. It's got some of the rare staples, but it doesn't havea lot of synergy, and It's so inconsistent. My comments are in parenthesis.

Character
Lord Zycon

Creature:
4 Bookworm Bilkins
2 Illusionist
2 Jared Firemonger (Why would you play this?! 15 Loyalty, and sub-par effect!)
4 Knyles
4 Morlock Debaine (Why play 4 with not that many apprentices? Probably because It's got pretty good stats magically.)
3 Wizard Apprentice
2 Wizard Recruiter

Effect:
Ball Lightning
Banishment
3 Peace Time (Not that good at all)
Sudden Illness

Spell:
3 Forget It!
2 Heroic Sacrifice
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Purify
Renewed Resources
2 Thoughtful Study (THIS CARD IS SO AWFUL!)
3 Wizard Battle

Structure:
Guild

Item:
2 Bibliotheque


I think the Grimus deck that was given to me was pretty good, and I'll do another one of these posts later.

Any help/comments/questions/critism will be taken and appreciated!

[shockyakaglye]

2muchskill said:

Hey, someone on the forum gave me 2 deck lists that I asked for, a Grimus control, and a Zycon Wizard swarm thing. After close analysis of the decks, and taking some of my Yu-Gi-Oh! philosophy to deckbuilding I've come to the conclusion that this Zycon deck is'nt that decent. It's got some of the rare staples, but it doesn't havea lot of synergy, and It's so inconsistent. My comments are in parenthesis.

Character
Lord Zycon

Creature:
4 Bookworm Bilkins
2 Illusionist
2 Jared Firemonger (Why would you play this?! 15 Loyalty, and sub-par effect!)
4 Knyles
4 Morlock Debaine (Why play 4 with not that many apprentices? Probably because It's got pretty good stats magically.)
3 Wizard Apprentice
2 Wizard Recruiter

Effect:
Ball Lightning
Banishment
3 Peace Time (Not that good at all)
Sudden Illness

Spell:
3 Forget It!
2 Heroic Sacrifice
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Purify
Renewed Resources
2 Thoughtful Study (THIS CARD IS SO AWFUL!)
3 Wizard Battle

Structure:
Guild

Item:
2 Bibliotheque


I think the Grimus deck that was given to me was pretty good, and I'll do another one of these posts later.

Any help/comments/questions/critism will be taken and appreciated!

if you are going to play bookwoom bilkins then play globe of invintsablity(spelling??)

[2MuchSkill]

Can you tell me what that does?

[redshirt]

I haven't yet played much with wizard decks but I can give you my thoughts for what they are worth

2muchskill said:

Hey, someone on the forum gave me 2 deck lists that I asked for, a Grimus control, and a Zycon Wizard swarm thing. After close analysis of the decks, and taking some of my Yu-Gi-Oh! philosophy to deckbuilding I've come to the conclusion that this Zycon deck is'nt that decent. It's got some of the rare staples, but it doesn't havea lot of synergy, and It's so inconsistent. My comments are in parenthesis.

Character
Lord Zycon

Creature:
4 Bookworm Bilkins

I'm guessing it takes too long for his magical abilities to get up to the point where he's useful when you're playing a competitive deck. There's not much sense in playing a guy who is going to have to stay fully engaged for at least three turns before he becomes about average.

2 Illusionist
2 Jared Firemonger (Why would you play this?! 15 Loyalty, and sub-par effect!)

The effect is far from subpar. Pinging for one can kill a lot of creatures outright. Jared can cause creatures with False Loyalty to Abandon. He also gets rid of a couple problem cards for a lot of decks: Trade Agreement and Devil's Contract. There may be others.

4 Morlock Debaine (Why play 4 with not that many apprentices? Probably because It's got pretty good stats magically.)

You don't really want to draw apprentices. You want to use MD or Wizard Recruiter to recruit them out. Once they are out, if you ever use them, they get shuffled back in. So you have four to maximize your chances of drawing MD, particularly in the mirror match when you want to be the first person to draw him.

3 Wizard Apprentice
2 Wizard Recruiter

Effect:
Ball Lightning
Banishment
3 Peace Time (Not that good at all)

It depends on what deck you're playing. That's a nightmare card for a Glye aggro deck, because suddenly, he is pretty well locked out of the game. Along the same lines, it would stop an Archer deck from dealing its damage. Against a Wizard deck, it's not that good.

Sudden Illness

Lucky you! That's a nasty card.

Spell:
3 Forget It!
2 Heroic Sacrifice
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Purify
Renewed Resources
2 Thoughtful Study (THIS CARD IS SO AWFUL!)

Actually, it's a pretty broken spell. 25 of your cards are spells or effects. By the way, you seem to be missing cards, or I'm tired and am not counting properly, because you seem to only have 44 cards instead of the minimum required 49.

Anyhow, so about 50 percent of your cards shold be spells or effects. That would mean on an average draw of 10 cards, you should get about 5 spells/effects in exchange for using the one spell. Sure, you will have to discard a bunch of creatures or items, but you will have on average a lot of spells.

I don't know if you're familiar with the notion of card advantage, but the notion of trading one card for a minimum of 3 and reasonably 7 is unfair, especially when you consider that you only start with five cards.

If I had my say, it would be either restricted to an ultrarare or banned outright.

3 Wizard Battle

Structure:
Guild

I think it would probably be easier to skip the Guild and the Heroic Sacrifices altogether.

Item:
2 Bibliotheque


I think the Grimus deck that was given to me was pretty good, and I'll do another one of these posts later.

Any help/comments/questions/critism will be taken and appreciated!

Hope you post your Grimus deck. Thanks for sharing!

[Deleted]

Yeah, I'm with redshirt on everything, except that I do see all 50 cards. This deck as it is is a bit unfocused, or maybe it's you. Ouch! I don't mean it the way it sounds. Here...

I think you need to decide which way you think. You shouldn't just ask, "What deck is good?" Start with something simpler, maybe something you like or want to try out. Build the deck in that light, then play it against other things. Find out what gives you trouble, adjust, post it here, etc. It sounds like you don't have an attachment to this deck, so it's hard to like give suggestions...for me anyway. I don't know if you intend to be aggressive with your magic or defensive. I mean, this deck leans on defense, but your Yugi-oh orientation would suggest you would be more comfortable with aggression. I think a Glye or Sutraps deck would provide a consistency of your liking. Check out the thread "2 tourney ready decks" for a decent Glye deck.

Post Grimus!

[redshirt]

Globe of Invincibility's image can be found here:

www.mysticalempire.com/images/cards/184.jpg

What it does is allow you to protect three of your creatures from taking damage or being targeted.

Normally it's a fairly short effect, because the casters disengage, and then the effect is discarded.

But if you cast it with Bookworm Bilkins alone, you can leave him fully engaged and the Globe continues. As long as you make him one of the three creatures protected by the Globe, you can continue it as long as you want, which means you have three guys who can block even Sutraps all game long.

[2MuchSkill]

Thanks for the long reply, and of course I knoe the concept of card advantage lol

I might play one jared cause its got 15 loyalty, and one thoughtful study