Keith Katsikas
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Post by Keith Katsikas on Nov 3, 2006 23:53:29 GMT -5
002 Lord Draqula Character Vampire Lord 4 2 1 12 Lord Draqula gains +1 Leadership for each Creature you control and an additional +1 Leadership for each Creature with Vampiric. When Lord Draqula deals Combat Damage to a Creature with less loyality than his Leadership, gain control of that Creature and that Creature gains Vampiric, unless that Creature is Destroyed. Abilities gained for Maintaining 1 or more Dark Towers: 1+: Draqula gains +1 Leadership for each Vampire you control. 2+: All Creatures you control gain +1 Loyalty while attacking. 3+: All Creatures you control gain Vampiric. All 4: All Creatures you control gain Flying. (Creatures with Vampiric lost Vampiric whenever there is a Time Token on them, and each time they deal Combat Damage they gain a Time Token.) 4 0 0 6 0 Michael Waters CH
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Post by plmrelm on Nov 4, 2006 15:41:42 GMT -5
Do you gain additional Leadership if your opponent also has Vampiric creatures in play? For each Vampire under your control you gain +3 Leadership with a Dark Tower in play...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2006 20:03:24 GMT -5
Ha ha! Nice one Patrick! I can tell you right now that what you are suggesting is not the intention of the card, but it is worded improperly. As the card stands right now, it does support the notion that you would gain +1 leadership for each creature with vampiric in play, under both players control! Bad English, Keith, bad English.
Ex. You have Draqula, 2 wizards, and 3 Vamps. Your opponent has 2 Vamps. Your total leadership is 14. (Ouch...still weak. Yikes!)
Any takers on the counterpoint?
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Post by cadrac on Dec 7, 2006 18:04:40 GMT -5
For each Vampire under your control you gain +3 Leadership with a Dark Tower in play... Does every Vampire have Vampiric as well? Otherwise I'm not sure how you're getting +3.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2006 4:24:24 GMT -5
Most do. However, that Dark Tower ability will now power off of simply the creature type, Vampire, as where the other is of Vampiric.
On the subject, I"m confused by the reading of the rule suggesting Creatures lose Vampiric when having a Time Token, greatly affecting the Leadership capabilities of the Dark Lord himself. Notwithstanding, I would like to still hear from Keith regarding the intention of having Draq be powered up by all Vampiric in play or just yours...
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Post by redshirt on Dec 13, 2006 22:31:46 GMT -5
What happens if Draq (or for that matter, any creature with Vampiric) gets into combat with a Zombie Token whose controller also has a Sworn Defender in play?
Draq deals combat damage to the Zombie Token, even if it's redirected, right?
Does he gain control of the Zombie Token AND the Sworn Defender? Just the Sworn Defender? Just the Zombie Token? Neither?
How does this Vampiric business work with True and False Loyalty?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2006 1:38:01 GMT -5
I'm like 99% sure that Vampiric controls only those Creatures with numerical values. That being said, they would never affect True Loyalty creatures, and False Loyalty would depend on the numerical value or X. ( If X has none, it is undefined, as in with Grimus, and therefore not numerical.)
As for the damage dealt, I have to check the current rulebook. I am not sure if damage dealt is counted on assignment or resolution, which would then determine if the Vamp gets the Zombie or not. In the case of the Sworn Defender, it can't gain control of it due to the True Loyalty.
I hope I was on the money with all of that and could be helpful. GL
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Post by Keith Katsikas on Dec 14, 2006 10:35:38 GMT -5
You are absolutely right on all accounts "Q". As for damage, it is dealt upon resolution.
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Post by spiller on Dec 14, 2006 11:51:38 GMT -5
I am in agreement with all the rulings but I have to agree that the loss of vampiric with time counters makes Draq nearly unplayable. When I first previewed the card the counters were not yet part of the vampiric ability. I have to default to people with the cards to playtest but am I correct in that regard??
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